William & Mary Tribe @ James Madison Dukes
| 1 | 2 | T | |
|---|---|---|---|
| W&M11-9 | 24 | 46 | 70 |
| JMU10-10 | 26 | 41 | 67 |
The scoring timeline.
Every scoring moment, when the official feed stamped it — and when FirstBuzzer's in-venue spotters buzzed it first. Times are ET.
-
Abdulai Jalloh made Two Point Jumper.
0–2 -
Juwann James made Two Point Jumper.
0–4 -
Danny Sumner made Two Point Jumper.
2–4 -
Dazzmond Thornton made Free Throw.
2–5 -
Laimis Kisielius made Three Point Jumper. Assisted by Chris Darnell.
5–5 -
Dazzmond Thornton made Two Point Layup. Assisted by Juwann James.
5–7 -
David Schneider made Two Point Layup. Assisted by Chris Darnell.
7–7 -
Nathan Mann made Three Point Jumper. Assisted by Steven Hess.
10–7 -
Nathan Mann made Three Point Jumper.
13–7 -
David Schneider made Free Throw.
14–7 -
Pierre Curtis made Three Point Jumper. Assisted by Abdulai Jalloh.
14–10 -
Danny Sumner made Two Point Dunk Shot. Assisted by Peter Stein.
16–10 -
Stephen Kendall made Three Point Jumper. Assisted by Pierre Curtis.
16–13 -
Terrance Carter made Two Point Layup. Assisted by Juwann James.
16–15 -
John Sexton made Three Point Jumper. Assisted by Nathan Mann.
19–15 -
Abdulai Jalloh made Three Point Jumper. Assisted by Stephen Kendall.
19–18 -
Laimis Kisielius made Two Point Layup. Assisted by Chris Darnell.
21–18 -
Abdulai Jalloh made Free Throw.
21–19 -
Abdulai Jalloh made Free Throw.
21–20 -
Stephen Kendall made Two Point Jumper.
21–22 -
Terrance Carter made Free Throw.
21–23 -
Abdulai Jalloh made Three Point Jumper. Assisted by Terrance Carter.
21–26 -
Laimis Kisielius made Three Point Jumper. Assisted by Nathan Mann.
24–26 -
Danny Sumner made Two Point Layup. Assisted by Nathan Mann.
26–26 -
Dazzmond Thornton made Two Point Jumper.
26–28 -
Juwann James made Two Point Layup. Assisted by Pierre Curtis.
26–30 -
Danny Sumner made Three Point Jumper. Assisted by David Schneider.
29–30 -
Juwann James made Free Throw.
29–31 -
Steven Hess made Two Point Tip Shot.
31–31 -
Pierre Curtis made Three Point Jumper. Assisted by Juwann James.
31–34 -
Nathan Mann made Three Point Jumper. Assisted by Danny Sumner.
34–34 -
Juwann James made Two Point Dunk Shot.
34–36 -
Chris Darnell made Free Throw.
35–36 -
Chris Darnell made Free Throw.
36–36 -
Chris Darnell made Free Throw.
37–36 -
Danny Sumner made Two Point Jumper.
39–36 -
Dazzmond Thornton made Two Point Layup. Assisted by Abdulai Jalloh.
39–38 -
David Schneider made Two Point Jumper.
41–38 -
John Sexton made Three Point Jumper. Assisted by Danny Sumner.
44–38 -
Abdulai Jalloh made Free Throw.
44–39 -
Steven Hess made Two Point Layup. Assisted by David Schneider.
46–39 -
Nathan Mann made Three Point Jumper. Assisted by Chris Darnell.
49–39 -
Juwann James made Two Point Tip Shot.
49–41 -
Chris Darnell made Free Throw.
50–41 -
Pierre Curtis made Free Throw.
50–42 -
Pierre Curtis made Free Throw.
50–43 -
Terrance Carter made Three Point Jumper. Assisted by Pierre Curtis.
50–46 -
Heiden Ratner made Free Throw.
50–47 -
Peter Stein made Free Throw.
51–47 -
Peter Stein made Free Throw.
52–47 -
Juwann James made Two Point Layup.
52–49 -
Peter Stein made Free Throw.
53–49 -
Abdulai Jalloh made Free Throw.
53–50 -
Laimis Kisielius made Free Throw.
54–50 -
Pierre Curtis made Free Throw.
54–51 -
Pierre Curtis made Free Throw.
54–52 -
Nathan Mann made Three Point Jumper.
57–52 -
Nathan Mann made Free Throw.
58–52 -
Nathan Mann made Free Throw.
59–52 -
Juwann James made Two Point Layup. Assisted by Pierre Curtis.
59–54 -
Juwann James made Two Point Dunk Shot.
59–56 -
David Schneider made Free Throw.
60–56 -
David Schneider made Free Throw.
61–56 -
Abdulai Jalloh made Three Point Jumper. Assisted by Pierre Curtis.
61–59 -
David Schneider made Two Point Layup.
63–59 -
Nathan Mann made Free Throw.
64–59 -
David Schneider made Free Throw.
65–59 -
David Schneider made Free Throw.
66–59 -
Abdulai Jalloh made Three Point Jumper. Assisted by Pierre Curtis.
66–62 -
Abdulai Jalloh made Free Throw.
66–63 -
Nathan Mann made Free Throw.
67–63 -
Pierre Curtis made Two Point Layup.
67–65 -
David Schneider made Free Throw.
68–65 -
David Schneider made Free Throw.
69–65 -
Pierre Curtis made Free Throw.
69–66 -
Pierre Curtis made Free Throw.
69–67 -
Danny Sumner made Free Throw.
70–67
Play-by-play
- P1 Pierre Curtis missed Two Point Jumper.
- P1 William & Mary Defensive Rebound.
- P1 Laimis Kisielius missed Two Point Jumper.
- P1 Peter Stein Offensive Rebound.
- P1 David Schneider missed Two Point Jumper.
- P1 Abdulai Jalloh Defensive Rebound.
- P1 Foul on Terrance Carter
- P1 Danny Sumner missed Two Point Jumper.
- P1 Terrance Carter Defensive Rebound.
- P1 Abdulai Jalloh made Two Point Jumper. 0–2
- P1 Danny Sumner missed Three Point Jumper.
- P1 Abdulai Jalloh Defensive Rebound.
- P1 Nathan Mann Steal.
- P1 Foul on Pierre Curtis
- P1 Laimis Kisielius missed Two Point Jumper.
- P1 Terrance Carter Defensive Rebound.
- P1 Foul on Laimis Kisielius
- P1 Pierre Curtis missed Two Point Jumper.
- P1 Danny Sumner Defensive Rebound.
- P1 David Schneider missed Three Point Jumper.
- P1 Dazzmond Thornton Defensive Rebound.
- P1 Juwann James made Two Point Jumper. 0–4
- P1 Nathan Mann missed Two Point Jumper.
- P1 Chris Darnell Offensive Rebound.
- P1 Chris Darnell missed Two Point Jumper.
- P1 Danny Sumner Offensive Rebound.
- P1 Danny Sumner made Two Point Jumper. 2–4
- P1 Official TV Timeout.
- P1 Danny Sumner missed Two Point Jumper.
- P1 Juwann James Defensive Rebound.
- P1 Foul on Chris Darnell
- P1 Dazzmond Thornton made Free Throw. 2–5
- P1 Dazzmond Thornton missed Free Throw.
- P1 Danny Sumner Defensive Rebound.
- P1 Laimis Kisielius made Three Point Jumper. Assisted by Chris Darnell. 5–5
- P1 Dazzmond Thornton made Two Point Layup. Assisted by Juwann James. 5–7
- P1 David Schneider made Two Point Layup. Assisted by Chris Darnell. 7–7
- P1 Abdulai Jalloh missed Three Point Jumper.
- P1 Danny Sumner Defensive Rebound.
- P1 Juwann James Steal.
- P1 Foul on Ben Louis
- P1 Nathan Mann missed Three Point Jumper.
- P1 Heiden Ratner Defensive Rebound.
- P1 Laimis Kisielius Steal.
- P1 Foul on Heiden Ratner
- P1 Abdulai Jalloh Steal.
- P1 Foul on Abdulai Jalloh
- P1 Abdulai Jalloh Steal.
- P1 Foul on Pierre Curtis
- P1 Foul on Laimis Kisielius
- P1 Official TV Timeout.
- P1 Ben Louis missed Two Point Jumper.
- P1 Chris Darnell Defensive Rebound.
- P1 Nathan Mann made Three Point Jumper. Assisted by Steven Hess. 10–7
- P1 Abdulai Jalloh missed Two Point Jumper.
- P1 Abdulai Jalloh Offensive Rebound.
- P1 Abdulai Jalloh missed Two Point Jumper.
- P1 Chris Darnell Defensive Rebound.
- P1 Nathan Mann made Three Point Jumper. 13–7
- P1 Heiden Ratner missed Three Point Jumper.
- P1 Nathan Mann Defensive Rebound.
- P1 Ben Louis missed Three Point Jumper.
- P1 Terrance Carter Offensive Rebound.
- P1 Terrance Carter missed Two Point Jumper.
- P1 John Sexton Defensive Rebound.
- P1 Foul on Gabriel Chami
- P1 David Schneider made Free Throw. 14–7
- P1 David Schneider missed Free Throw.
- P1 Juwann James Defensive Rebound.
- P1 Danny Sumner missed Two Point Jumper.
- P1 Stephen Kendall Defensive Rebound.
- P1 Foul on Chris Stratton
- P1 Abdulai Jalloh missed Three Point Jumper.
- P1 Pierre Curtis Offensive Rebound.
- P1 Pierre Curtis made Three Point Jumper. Assisted by Abdulai Jalloh. 14–10
- P1 Danny Sumner made Two Point Dunk Shot. Assisted by Peter Stein. 16–10
- P1 Official TV Timeout.
- P1 Stephen Kendall made Three Point Jumper. Assisted by Pierre Curtis. 16–13
- P1 Foul on Stephen Kendall
- P1 John Sexton missed Free Throw.
- P1 Stephen Kendall Defensive Rebound.
- P1 Terrance Carter made Two Point Layup. Assisted by Juwann James. 16–15
- P1 John Sexton made Three Point Jumper. Assisted by Nathan Mann. 19–15
- P1 Foul on Peter Stein
- P1 Abdulai Jalloh made Three Point Jumper. Assisted by Stephen Kendall. 19–18
- P1 Laimis Kisielius made Two Point Layup. Assisted by Chris Darnell. 21–18
- P1 Foul on Chris Darnell
- P1 Foul on Nathan Mann
- P1 Official TV Timeout.
- P1 Abdulai Jalloh made Free Throw. 21–19
- P1 Abdulai Jalloh made Free Throw. 21–20
- P1 Abdulai Jalloh Steal.
- P1 Stephen Kendall made Two Point Jumper. 21–22
- P1 Terrance Carter Steal.
- P1 Foul on Steven Hess
- P1 Terrance Carter missed Free Throw.
- P1 Danny Sumner Defensive Rebound.
- P1 Steven Hess missed Two Point Jumper.
- P1 Terrance Carter Defensive Rebound.
- P1 Terrance Carter missed Two Point Jumper.
- P1 Terrance Carter Offensive Rebound.
- P1 Foul on Steven Hess
- P1 Terrance Carter missed Free Throw.
- P1 Terrance Carter made Free Throw. 21–23
- P1 Chris Darnell missed Three Point Jumper.
- P1 Juwann James Defensive Rebound.
- P1 Terrance Carter missed Two Point Jumper.
- P1 Laimis Kisielius Defensive Rebound.
- P1 Laimis Kisielius missed Two Point Jumper.
- P1 Abdulai Jalloh Defensive Rebound.
- P1 Abdulai Jalloh made Three Point Jumper. Assisted by Terrance Carter. 21–26
- P1 Laimis Kisielius missed Three Point Jumper.
- P1 Nathan Mann Offensive Rebound.
- P1 William & Mary 30 Second Timeout.
- P1 Laimis Kisielius made Three Point Jumper. Assisted by Nathan Mann. 24–26
- P1 James Madison 30 Second Timeout.
- P1 David Schneider Steal.
- P2 Danny Sumner made Two Point Layup. Assisted by Nathan Mann. 26–26
- P2 Dazzmond Thornton made Two Point Jumper. 26–28
- P2 Foul on Peter Stein
- P2 Dazzmond Thornton missed Free Throw.
- P2 James Madison Offensive Rebound.
- P2 Peter Stein Steal.
- P2 Dazzmond Thornton Steal.
- P2 Juwann James made Two Point Layup. Assisted by Pierre Curtis. 26–30
- P2 Danny Sumner made Three Point Jumper. Assisted by David Schneider. 29–30
- P2 Terrance Carter missed Two Point Jumper.
- P2 Juwann James Offensive Rebound.
- P2 Foul on Peter Stein
- P2 Juwann James made Free Throw. 29–31
- P2 Juwann James missed Free Throw.
- P2 David Schneider Defensive Rebound.
- P2 Nathan Mann missed Two Point Jumper.
- P2 Steven Hess Offensive Rebound.
- P2 Steven Hess made Two Point Tip Shot. 31–31
- P2 Pierre Curtis made Three Point Jumper. Assisted by Juwann James. 31–34
- P2 Foul on Juwann James
- P2 Official TV Timeout.
- P2 Nathan Mann made Three Point Jumper. Assisted by Danny Sumner. 34–34
- P2 Foul on Heiden Ratner
- P2 Foul on Heiden Ratner
- P2 Foul on David Schneider
- P2 Foul on Laimis Kisielius
- P2 Juwann James missed Two Point Layup.
- P2 Steven Hess Defensive Rebound.
- P2 Juwann James Steal.
- P2 Juwann James made Two Point Dunk Shot. 34–36
- P2 Laimis Kisielius missed Two Point Jumper.
- P2 Abdulai Jalloh Defensive Rebound.
- P2 Foul on John Sexton
- P2 William & Mary 30 Second Timeout.
- P2 Foul on Nathan Mann
- P2 Chris Darnell Steal.
- P2 Foul on Juwann James
- P2 Chris Darnell made Free Throw. 35–36
- P2 Chris Darnell made Free Throw. 36–36
- P2 Chris Darnell made Free Throw. 37–36
- P2 Stephen Kendall missed Two Point Jumper.
- P2 Danny Sumner Defensive Rebound.
- P2 Foul on Pierre Curtis
- P2 Ben Louis Steal.
- P2 Stephen Kendall missed Three Point Jumper.
- P2 Official TV Timeout.
- P2 Foul on Dazzmond Thornton
- P2 Abdulai Jalloh Steal.
- P2 Ben Louis missed Two Point Layup.
- P2 David Schneider Defensive Rebound.
- P2 Danny Sumner made Two Point Jumper. 39–36
- P2 Stephen Kendall missed Three Point Jumper.
- P2 Ben Louis Offensive Rebound.
- P2 Terrance Carter missed Two Point Jumper.
- P2 David Schneider Defensive Rebound.
- P2 David Schneider missed Two Point Jumper.
- P2 Abdulai Jalloh Defensive Rebound.
- P2 Dazzmond Thornton made Two Point Layup. Assisted by Abdulai Jalloh. 39–38
- P2 David Schneider made Two Point Jumper. 41–38
- P2 Stephen Kendall missed Three Point Jumper.
- P2 William & Mary Defensive Rebound.
- P2 John Sexton made Three Point Jumper. Assisted by Danny Sumner. 44–38
- P2 James Madison 30 Second Timeout.
- P2 Danny Sumner missed Two Point Layup.
- P2 Abdulai Jalloh Defensive Rebound.
- P2 Laimis Kisielius Steal.
- P2 Juwann James Steal.
- P2 Foul on John Sexton
- P2 Abdulai Jalloh made Free Throw. 44–39
- P2 Abdulai Jalloh missed Free Throw.
- P2 Steven Hess Defensive Rebound.
- P2 Steven Hess made Two Point Layup. Assisted by David Schneider. 46–39
- P2 Nathan Mann made Three Point Jumper. Assisted by Chris Darnell. 49–39
- P2 Terrance Carter missed Two Point Jumper.
- P2 Juwann James Offensive Rebound.
- P2 Juwann James made Two Point Tip Shot. 49–41
- P2 Foul on Terrance Carter
- P2 Official TV Timeout.
- P2 Chris Darnell made Free Throw. 50–41
- P2 Chris Darnell missed Free Throw.
- P2 Ben Louis Defensive Rebound.
- P2 Foul on Chris Darnell
- P2 Pierre Curtis made Free Throw. 50–42
- P2 Pierre Curtis made Free Throw. 50–43
- P2 Juwann James Steal.
- P2 Terrance Carter made Three Point Jumper. Assisted by Pierre Curtis. 50–46
- P2 David Schneider missed Two Point Layup.
- P2 Ben Louis Defensive Rebound.
- P2 Heiden Ratner missed Two Point Jumper.
- P2 Heiden Ratner Offensive Rebound.
- P2 Foul on Nathan Mann
- P2 Heiden Ratner missed Free Throw.
- P2 Heiden Ratner made Free Throw. 50–47
- P2 Foul on Ben Louis
- P2 Peter Stein made Free Throw. 51–47
- P2 Peter Stein made Free Throw. 52–47
- P2 Pierre Curtis missed Two Point Jumper.
- P2 Juwann James Offensive Rebound.
- P2 Juwann James made Two Point Layup. 52–49
- P2 Foul on Juwann James
- P2 Peter Stein missed Free Throw.
- P2 Peter Stein made Free Throw. 53–49
- P2 Foul on Nathan Mann
- P2 Abdulai Jalloh made Free Throw. 53–50
- P2 Abdulai Jalloh missed Free Throw.
- P2 Laimis Kisielius Defensive Rebound.
- P2 Foul on Terrance Carter
- P2 Official TV Timeout.
- P2 Laimis Kisielius made Free Throw. 54–50
- P2 Laimis Kisielius missed Free Throw.
- P2 Juwann James Defensive Rebound.
- P2 Peter Stein Steal.
- P2 Peter Stein missed Two Point Layup.
- P2 Peter Stein Offensive Rebound.
- P2 William & Mary 30 Second Timeout.
- P2 Ben Louis Steal.
- P2 Foul on Danny Sumner
- P2 Pierre Curtis made Free Throw. 54–51
- P2 Pierre Curtis made Free Throw. 54–52
- P2 Nathan Mann made Three Point Jumper. 57–52
- P2 Peter Stein Steal.
- P2 Foul on Terrance Carter
- P2 Nathan Mann made Free Throw. 58–52
- P2 Nathan Mann made Free Throw. 59–52
- P2 Juwann James made Two Point Layup. Assisted by Pierre Curtis. 59–54
- P2 Foul on Chris Darnell
- P2 Juwann James missed Free Throw.
- P2 David Schneider Defensive Rebound.
- P2 Juwann James Steal.
- P2 Juwann James made Two Point Dunk Shot. 59–56
- P2 Foul on Heiden Ratner
- P2 David Schneider made Free Throw. 60–56
- P2 David Schneider made Free Throw. 61–56
- P2 Abdulai Jalloh made Three Point Jumper. Assisted by Pierre Curtis. 61–59
- P2 James Madison 30 Second Timeout.
- P2 David Schneider made Two Point Layup. 63–59
- P2 William & Mary 30 Second Timeout.
- P2 Terrance Carter missed Two Point Jumper.
- P2 Nathan Mann Defensive Rebound.
- P2 Foul on Abdulai Jalloh
- P2 Nathan Mann missed Free Throw.
- P2 Nathan Mann made Free Throw. 64–59
- P2 Terrance Carter missed Three Point Jumper.
- P2 William & Mary Defensive Rebound.
- P2 Foul on Heiden Ratner
- P2 David Schneider made Free Throw. 65–59
- P2 David Schneider made Free Throw. 66–59
- P2 Abdulai Jalloh made Three Point Jumper. Assisted by Pierre Curtis. 66–62
- P2 Foul on David Schneider
- P2 Abdulai Jalloh made Free Throw. 66–63
- P2 Foul on Ben Louis
- P2 Nathan Mann missed Free Throw.
- P2 Nathan Mann made Free Throw. 67–63
- P2 Pierre Curtis made Two Point Layup. 67–65
- P2 James Madison Full Timeout.
- P2 Foul on Pierre Curtis
- P2 David Schneider made Free Throw. 68–65
- P2 David Schneider made Free Throw. 69–65
- P2 William & Mary 30 Second Timeout.
- P2 Foul on Peter Stein
- P2 Pierre Curtis made Free Throw. 69–66
- P2 Pierre Curtis made Free Throw. 69–67
- P2 Foul on Stephen Kendall
- P2 Danny Sumner missed Free Throw.
- P2 Danny Sumner made Free Throw. 70–67
- P2 James Madison 30 Second Timeout.
- P2 Abdulai Jalloh missed Three Point Jumper.
- P2 Stephen Kendall Offensive Rebound.
- P2 Stephen Kendall missed Three Point Jumper.
- P2 Chris Darnell Defensive Rebound.
- P2 End Game
Box score
W&M
| Player | MIN | PTS | FG | 3PT | FT | REB | AST | TO | STL | BLK | OREB | DREB | PF |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Danny SumnerF | 26 | 12 | 5-10 | 1-2 | 1-2 | 6 | 2 | 4 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 5 | 1 |
| Peter SteinF | 28 | 3 | 0-1 | 0-0 | 3-4 | 2 | 1 | 1 | 3 | 0 | 2 | 0 | 4 |
| Laimis KisieliusF | 25 | 9 | 3-8 | 2-3 | 1-2 | 2 | 0 | 7 | 2 | 0 | 0 | 2 | 3 |
| David SchneiderG | 38 | 13 | 3-7 | 0-1 | 7-8 | 4 | 2 | 1 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 4 | 2 |
| Nathan MannG | 30 | 19 | 5-8 | 5-6 | 4-6 | 3 | 3 | 1 | 1 | 0 | 1 | 2 | 4 |
| Steven HessF | 12 | 4 | 2-3 | 0-0 | 0-0 | 3 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 2 | 2 |
| Chris DarnellF | 27 | 4 | 0-2 | 0-1 | 4-5 | 4 | 4 | 4 | 1 | 2 | 1 | 3 | 4 |
| Chris StrattonF | 4 | 0 | 0-0 | 0-0 | 0-0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 |
| John SextonG | 10 | 6 | 2-2 | 2-2 | 0-1 | 1 | 0 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 2 |
| Marcus KittsF | |||||||||||||
| Alex SmithF | |||||||||||||
| Nils-Paul SkaraG | |||||||||||||
| Vali LazarescuG | |||||||||||||
| Marcus BarnettG | |||||||||||||
| Kyle CarrabineG |
JMU
| Player | MIN | PTS | FG | 3PT | FT | REB | AST | TO | STL | BLK | OREB | DREB | PF |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Terrance CarterF | 34 | 6 | 2-10 | 1-2 | 1-3 | 5 | 1 | 4 | 1 | 0 | 2 | 3 | 4 |
| Juwann JamesF | 35 | 15 | 7-8 | 0-0 | 1-3 | 7 | 3 | 3 | 5 | 0 | 3 | 4 | 3 |
| Dazzmond ThorntonF | 15 | 7 | 3-3 | 0-0 | 1-3 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 1 |
| Pierre CurtisG | 28 | 14 | 3-6 | 2-2 | 6-6 | 1 | 6 | 3 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 0 | 4 |
| Abdulai JallohG | 32 | 19 | 5-10 | 4-7 | 5-7 | 7 | 3 | 9 | 4 | 0 | 1 | 6 | 2 |
| Gabriel ChamiC | 7 | 0 | 0-0 | 0-0 | 0-0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 |
| Ben LouisG | 16 | 0 | 0-3 | 0-1 | 0-0 | 3 | 0 | 0 | 2 | 0 | 1 | 2 | 3 |
| Heiden RatnerG | 22 | 1 | 0-2 | 0-1 | 1-2 | 2 | 0 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 1 | 5 |
| Stephen KendallG | 11 | 5 | 2-7 | 1-5 | 0-0 | 3 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 2 | 2 |
| Matt ParkerF | |||||||||||||
| Ben ThomasF | |||||||||||||
| Kyle SwanstonF | |||||||||||||
| Joe PoseyG |
Watching this game live?
Buzz scoring moments from your seat — faster correct buzzes earn more, and consensus verifies every report before it counts.